Thursday, July 07, 2016

Secretary Clinton Did Not Lie

I posted this on Facebook, but then realized there were too many people who would scream bloody murder, so deleted it 2 minutes later.  Damn Facebook.  I don't want all my friends in one place, tyvm.  But this issue has me rather pissed off, so to get it out of my system, I'll post it here...not that anyone reads this old blog anymore...with the strong smell of rust and mold,  I don't blame you.

My issue is that sometimes I watch MSNBC...ya gotta love Rachel.  So, last night, Steve Kornacki, filling in for Rachel, rather rudely shut down a guest who was trying to explain that there is a valid argument for at least entertaining the idea that Secretary Clinton did not "lie" when she stated that she never sent any classified emails through her personal email account.  I had heard bits and pieces of that argument, and was rather frustrated that Kornacki shut down the idea so quickly, without apparently even listening to it.  I guess the news was "Hillary lied," according to him.

Then, this morning I caught a few minutes of Morning Joe.  Of course, Scarborough could not go 2 minutes without stating "She lied."  Eventually, he had brow beaten everyone on his show into agreeing with him.  Oh well, Joe can be an ass sometimes.  I shrugged it off, and went to work.

Then tonight, Kornacki did it again...dismissing a guest who tried to make the argument that there is a perspective from which we can hold the view that in fact Secretary Clinton honestly felt she was telling the truth when she stated that she sent no classified emails.

Enough already.  Let's get real, folks. Here is the best article I've found so far that makes the points, and provides the links, to the discussions I had heard, which had informed me just enough to make me wince when Kornacki and Scarborough just plain got it wrong. A few points from the article:
According to Comey, the year-long investigation of 55,000 Hillary emails did not reveal a single email clearly marked classified. Only three — just three — of Hillary’s emails “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information.” “Bore markings” is not the same thing as “marked classified.” In his July 7 testimony before Congress, Comey said that those markings were simply a (c) somewhere in the body of the email and nothing in the header or subject line. He further stated that they were improperly marked and that it was reasonable for Hillary to assume they were not classified...
...Hillary’s opponents are left with this, from Comey’s statement: “110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.” Let’s break that down. 110 out of 55,000 emails are said to have contained classified information. That’s just 0.2 percent of her emails. Crucially, these emails were not marked classified. And there is absolutely no indication or accusation that classified markings were concealed or removed.
Kornacki kept saying tonight that Hillary sent 110 classified emails. No no, no! They were not marked classified. The FBI and the "owning agency" (apparently the State Department), many years after the fact, decided they were classified. There were only three that had the rather obscure (c) on them, and the State Department has already suggested two of those three were marked (c) in error. So, there is ONE possible email unaccounted for.

So what about the other 107 emails the FBI is saying were classified? If they were not marked as such, how was the Secretary to know?
Put differently, why would classification markings even exist if the Secretary of State was required to divine the contents of all her emails? If everyone who has access to classified information “should know that the subject matter is classified,” then why do we even have a system that marks classified information? The U.S. Secretary of State is one of the busiest people on the planet. It is unreasonable to expect that part of her job is to magically divine what is and is not classified — when it is unmarked. Especially considering she is working within an infrastructure where there exists a standard for marking classified information, and thus she is entitled to a reasonable expectation of not receiving classified information unmarked.
And finally, I think we can agree that Hillary Clinton is an intelligent woman, regardless of what you think about her otherwise. Why in the world would she hand over the emails, and then insist over and over again that she sent nothing classified unless she honestly felt that was a truthful statement? She knew there would be an investigation.
Even if you set all these points aside, the fact that Hillary has been honest about her emails is really just common sense. If she knew she had sent or received classified information and also knew that there was an ongoing investigation that could result in a public finding, she wouldn’t make a knowingly false assertion. If she really is a scheming liar who tries to cover up misdeeds, why on earth would she say something that could be publicly proven false?
Do go read the whole article, and follow the links. And please, MSNBC, stop trying to push the "Hillary is a liar" story. We've got Faux News for that kind of garbage. This stupid issue is over. Let it go and move on.

And Rachel...enjoy your vacation...but COME BACK SOON! We need you.



  1. Thank you, Fr. is even WORSE on CBSN live streaming overseas...they actually have "expert" Republican speakers driving home the fact that Hillary (aledgly) LIED! This is very repulsive to's way beyond a publicity scheme to damage the image of a presidential's plain slander (it especially annoys me when the sladerers look normal, not insanelike at Fox News).

  2. I know you must know but I just glanced at your sidebar regarding the San Joaquin is FINALLY over (I think) and TEC gets ALL the property back including the camp and Catheral in Fresno...of course Bishop Schofield is no longer among the living (may peace/acceptance come to him in death) but interestingly some BIG ACNA participants ($) from San Juaquin visited my studio (it was suggested I keep my mouth shut regarding TEC)...although, they were quite friendly I noticed a "certain" cautiousness...they did buy a painting...THAT felt extra good! Mil gracias for your early and faithful reporting of this horrible schismatic saga.

  3. "not that anyone reads this old blog anymore...with the strong smell of rust and mold, I don't blame you."

    Heh, pleased to be "not anyone", Jake. ;-p "Damn Facebook": yeah, and that's why 11 years after first considering it, I'm still Facebook-free.

    ...and what you said, re Hillary Clinton. You articulated it better than I could. It's been bothering me, that I've been hearing "non-matching" terms: "marked classified" vs. "contained classified content"---as if they were one and the same!

    But I had not heard it so cogently explained, until now. Thank you! [And best to you, Jake, from here in the Facebook-FREE Zone. ;-) ]

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  5. Director Comey did state that seven e mail chains contained highly classified material ("Top Secret/Special Access Program") and that persons in Secretary Clinton's position should have recognized that the material was classified and should not be on an unsecured server. Even if an e mail does not contain an official "Classified" marking one can reasonably expect the Secretary of State to recognize highly classified material. Given Director Comey's statements and the existence of 3 e mails which did have a classified marking, it is not unreasonable to infer that she was not being truthful.

  6. For some reason my comment came up twice. I deleted one to seem less crazy.

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  8. My computer told me it's been 7 years since I last posted ... and here you are, Jake, feisty as ever ... glad you are still here and still stirring the pot ...

    For what it's worth, it simply doesn't make sense to me that Hillary would knowingly lie about stuff she had turned over ... even I'm too smart for that ...