tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post9189897070026192859..comments2024-03-21T03:15:39.165-04:00Comments on Father Jake Stops the World: Bruce Shipman Resigns from Yale After Claims of Ant-SemitismJakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13579571802576738609noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-16580075292764053982021-08-18T04:30:55.757-04:002021-08-18T04:30:55.757-04:00I have just read this blog and I’ll surely come ba...I have just read this blog and I’ll surely come back for more posts, and also this article gives the light in which we can observe the reality of the topic. Thanks for this nice article! Now read this too... <a href="https://www.currentschoolnews.com/job/united-bank-for-africa-plc-recruitment/" rel="nofollow">UBA bank teller recruitment</a>Henshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527648219815992970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-77477644640544705852014-10-09T11:13:25.042-04:002014-10-09T11:13:25.042-04:00I find this interesting. I'm 82 years old—and,...I find this interesting. I'm 82 years old—and, consequently, I remember well that day at the end of 1947 when the UN approved the partition that in 1948 brought the state of Israel into being. It was a triumph for all justice-seekers! And then tiny Israel—the only democracy in the Middle East, had to turn and fight against the attacks of ALL of her neighboring states who had resolved to destroy the tiny new democracy. It was thrilling to watch the David-Goliath confrontations and to see justice triumph.<br /><br />So, having been through that, it is very hard for me today to see that once-noble little nation imitating some of the worst human rights offenses of others against herself. I absolutely love the Jews—all Jews. I consider them my intimate brothers and sisters—I read Hebrew; I follow Haaretz; I care massively for Israel's safety; I despise Hamas; but I feel personally betrayed when I see (a) the overkill of Israel's retribution against Gaza, and (b) the continuing expansion of settlements in potential-Palestinian territory in the West Bank.<br /><br />And NONE of my offense at these things is in the slightest anti-Semetic! Indeed, my natural inclination has always been to justify Israel's actions, but lately that justification gets harder and harder to maintain. <br /><br />I don't know the way out, but currently Israel's treatment of Gaza is every day losing friends and well-wishers, and turning free people against Israel. But what do you do as a nation when your enemies declare a commitment to destroy you completely? I am not wise enough to know what would work but I do know that Israel's present practices do NOT work and alienate more and more of the world. <br /><br />And I am sorry that Fr Shipman's thoughts were seen as anti-Semetic. I think they were so only in the eye of the beholder.<br /><br />Fr. John-Julian, OJNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-5915854700122730042014-09-17T09:43:42.717-04:002014-09-17T09:43:42.717-04:00The biggest problem is the conflation of Judaism w...The biggest problem is the conflation of Judaism with Zionism. Bruce Robbins has an excellent documentary that details the journeys of several Jewish people who were able to make the distinction between the two. Several of them detail just how long and arduous a mental journey it was. <br /><br />http://www.bestfriendsfilm.com/Cherienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-13144341957955461432014-09-13T17:05:34.029-04:002014-09-13T17:05:34.029-04:00Anti-Semitism means hatred of the Jewish people. ...Anti-Semitism means hatred of the Jewish people. Over the course of a lifetime, I've encountered quite a few Jewish people, gotten to know several as friends, and cannot recall a single one whom I've disliked. However, I've long found Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to be shockingly cruel and barbaric. Does that make me "anti-Semitic?" It shouldn't, not if the phrase is to have any meaning at all.<br /><br />It appears to me that both Joshua Isackson and (alas) JCF put words in Rev. Shipman's mouth and then argue against those words, making classic straw man arguments. Mr. Isackson reads implications into Rev. Shipman's statements without first asking Rev. Shipman if those implications were in fact his intention. Instead, Isackson judges, tries, and convicts the campus chaplain of hatefulness, lying, and anti-Semitism. JCF, a normally logical person, accuses Rev. Shipman of condoning anti-Semitic violence against Jews if his suggestions aren't followed by Netanyahu. <br /><br />I believe these conceptual/linguistic conundrums reflect the grotesque, horrendous shadow of the Holocaust -- and of the centuries of anti-Semitic abuse that preceded it. Anti-Semitism is mass insanity, the collective persecution of the scapegoat that, if indulged, leads to unspeakable evil. It frightens us on levels we don't fully understand, and it has traumatized many among the Jewish people to the point that they now see its shadow even where it doesn't exist, making criticisms of Israeli behavior nearly impossible. Mr. Isackson's hasty accusations were apparently enough to send Rev. Shipman's Yale board into a cowering position where none could muster the nerve to defend him. Victims abound -- the Jews, the Palestinians, and brave souls like Rev. Shipman who dare to enter into the fray.<br /> <br />The perceived rise of anti-Semitism may have broader origins beyond the Israel/Palestinian situation; i.e., the rise of mass bullying around the world as old hierarchical power structures dissolve and new, more egalitarian ones have yet to take shape. Looks like it's going to be a rough ride.fsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-80707469677457099162014-09-13T04:01:11.693-04:002014-09-13T04:01:11.693-04:00I think I see this a little more nuanced than the ...I think I see this a little more nuanced than the rest of y'all.<br /><br />Not re Israel---I'm on record that Israel needs to SWALLOW the (comparitively) few deaths from Palestinians if there's EVER to be peace---but re what Shipman said.<br /><br />"the best antidote to anti-Semitism would be for Israel’s patrons abroad to press the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu": but if they don't, that justifies violence against "those w/ Jewish blood", or those who worship {YHWH} in a synogogue? See what I'm saying?<br /><br />There just isn't a justification for Anti-Semitism, per se (whereas, being against---for example---those Christianists who support Israel-Uber-Alles, there IS a case!)<br /><br />It's about POLICY (the policy of brutal war), not Jewish ethnicity or faith. Not making that distinction is what got Shipman in trouble.JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-72331355638480738232014-09-11T12:13:13.172-04:002014-09-11T12:13:13.172-04:00Hi Jake. Good to see you posting again.
I agre...Hi Jake. Good to see you posting again. <br /><br />I agree that the US should stop arming Israel. It's shameful that the board did not support Bruce Shipman in his exercise of free speech. <br /><br />To the Israeli leadership and their supporters in Israel and in the US: It's not who you are; it's what you do.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-82537671126827487152014-09-11T12:10:11.379-04:002014-09-11T12:10:11.379-04:00Thanks for this post Fr. Jake,
(sounds like someon...Thanks for this post Fr. Jake,<br />(sounds like someone who is very close to you.I mean the post..not Bruce Shipman)I am sorry about Bruce Shipman...it appears that his views were presented in an educational,rational manner...this is America and people should listen to both sides of everything so that they can make informed decisions and think for themselves...just because they are Israel it doesn't make them right.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04225232706579103452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5852922.post-74991480717489561852014-09-09T17:52:58.081-04:002014-09-09T17:52:58.081-04:00Bear in mind that the Egyptians, who share a borde...Bear in mind that the Egyptians, who share a border with #Gaza, were able to close the tunnels in their direction without the loss of a single life. And also we must remember that what are called "terror tunnels" are also the only way for supplies, food, medicine, etc to get into Gaza. Gaza is blockaded: nothing can get in; nothing can get out. People can't get in, can't get out. That's why they call it an "open air prison." That is literally the case here. <br /><br />The American revolutionaries were probably seen as "insurgents" and "terrorists" to the British crown. The French Resistance was probably seen the same way by the Third Reich.<br /><br />We call those who resisted evil, tyrannical regimes patriots and heroes now.<br /><br />Long live the Resistance. Long live Palestine!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com